Tulse Hill Gyratory Safety Scheme

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What we are doing

Whilst we continue to consider large-scale improvements at Tulse Hill, we plan to make some improvements at Tulse Hill Gyratory to improve the safety of pedestrians crossing the zebra crossings. This will include Tulse Hill, Norwood Road, Christchurch Road and Hardel Rise. 

The purpose of the scheme

Our studies and feedback received from stakeholders has indicated that traffic in the area is travelling at or above the current speed limit.  We also know that some vehicles weave and change lanes close to the zebra crossings in an unsafe manner.  The aim of this scheme is to improve safety for pedestrians and other road users in this area by slowing the speed of traffic on approach to the crossings.

We plan to:

  • Narrow the carriageway and introduce ‘slow’ markings in order to slow down traffic

  • Install bollards to reduce the amount of weaving on the approach to the zebra crossings

  • Provide more pavement space to improve the pedestrian experience.

  • Improve pedestrian visibility to drivers by removing over hanging foliage, reduce the number of large chevron signs, upgrade the bollards on the zebra islands, improve Belisha Beacons visibility by placing hoods on them.

We are currently finalising the detailed design for the scheme and intend to deliver the improvement in Winter 2024.

What we are doing

Whilst we continue to consider large-scale improvements at Tulse Hill, we plan to make some improvements at Tulse Hill Gyratory to improve the safety of pedestrians crossing the zebra crossings. This will include Tulse Hill, Norwood Road, Christchurch Road and Hardel Rise. 

The purpose of the scheme

Our studies and feedback received from stakeholders has indicated that traffic in the area is travelling at or above the current speed limit.  We also know that some vehicles weave and change lanes close to the zebra crossings in an unsafe manner.  The aim of this scheme is to improve safety for pedestrians and other road users in this area by slowing the speed of traffic on approach to the crossings.

We plan to:

  • Narrow the carriageway and introduce ‘slow’ markings in order to slow down traffic

  • Install bollards to reduce the amount of weaving on the approach to the zebra crossings

  • Provide more pavement space to improve the pedestrian experience.

  • Improve pedestrian visibility to drivers by removing over hanging foliage, reduce the number of large chevron signs, upgrade the bollards on the zebra islands, improve Belisha Beacons visibility by placing hoods on them.

We are currently finalising the detailed design for the scheme and intend to deliver the improvement in Winter 2024.

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Please let us know if you have any questions about the improvements and we will get back to you. 

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  • Share Why have you not responded to local suggestions for improvements: Speed cameras on the approach to the traffic lights, near Tulse Hill Hotel Phasing of lights to allow cycles to move off before the rest of the traffuc Pedestrian lights on the 2 crossings coming from Christchurch Road and Tulse Hill into the gyratory. This would be much safer than road narrowing. We also asked for painted lines or small bumps across the road to slow traffic. A lot of the problem relates to drivers trying to beat the lights both coming down Tulse Hill and going round the corner to Christchurch road. Cameras would have an impact here. Personally, I think the road narrowing schemes just frustrate drivers on Facebook Share Why have you not responded to local suggestions for improvements: Speed cameras on the approach to the traffic lights, near Tulse Hill Hotel Phasing of lights to allow cycles to move off before the rest of the traffuc Pedestrian lights on the 2 crossings coming from Christchurch Road and Tulse Hill into the gyratory. This would be much safer than road narrowing. We also asked for painted lines or small bumps across the road to slow traffic. A lot of the problem relates to drivers trying to beat the lights both coming down Tulse Hill and going round the corner to Christchurch road. Cameras would have an impact here. Personally, I think the road narrowing schemes just frustrate drivers on Twitter Share Why have you not responded to local suggestions for improvements: Speed cameras on the approach to the traffic lights, near Tulse Hill Hotel Phasing of lights to allow cycles to move off before the rest of the traffuc Pedestrian lights on the 2 crossings coming from Christchurch Road and Tulse Hill into the gyratory. This would be much safer than road narrowing. We also asked for painted lines or small bumps across the road to slow traffic. A lot of the problem relates to drivers trying to beat the lights both coming down Tulse Hill and going round the corner to Christchurch road. Cameras would have an impact here. Personally, I think the road narrowing schemes just frustrate drivers on Linkedin Email Why have you not responded to local suggestions for improvements: Speed cameras on the approach to the traffic lights, near Tulse Hill Hotel Phasing of lights to allow cycles to move off before the rest of the traffuc Pedestrian lights on the 2 crossings coming from Christchurch Road and Tulse Hill into the gyratory. This would be much safer than road narrowing. We also asked for painted lines or small bumps across the road to slow traffic. A lot of the problem relates to drivers trying to beat the lights both coming down Tulse Hill and going round the corner to Christchurch road. Cameras would have an impact here. Personally, I think the road narrowing schemes just frustrate drivers link

    Why have you not responded to local suggestions for improvements: Speed cameras on the approach to the traffic lights, near Tulse Hill Hotel Phasing of lights to allow cycles to move off before the rest of the traffuc Pedestrian lights on the 2 crossings coming from Christchurch Road and Tulse Hill into the gyratory. This would be much safer than road narrowing. We also asked for painted lines or small bumps across the road to slow traffic. A lot of the problem relates to drivers trying to beat the lights both coming down Tulse Hill and going round the corner to Christchurch road. Cameras would have an impact here. Personally, I think the road narrowing schemes just frustrate drivers

    Local25 asked 2 months ago

    The purpose of this improvement scheme is improve pedestrian safety and to reduce the speed of vehicles travelling around the gyratory.  The narrowing of the lanes will help to reduce traffic speeds at the junctions and improve pedestrian safety.  At this present time, we do not have plans to install road cameras as part of this scheme.  We have also passed on the comments about the phasing of the lights to colleagues in TfL who will consider these.  However, any changes to these would be delivered outside of this scheme.

  • Share Hello, are there any plans to install speed or noise cameras? One of our biggest concerns is the speed of cars/motorcycles travelling up the hill past probyn road. When some drivers see open road, particularly later at night, you'll often see vehicles accelerating to 60+ mph in a matter of seconds. (For context I live on Christchurch road and have windows facing the road) on Facebook Share Hello, are there any plans to install speed or noise cameras? One of our biggest concerns is the speed of cars/motorcycles travelling up the hill past probyn road. When some drivers see open road, particularly later at night, you'll often see vehicles accelerating to 60+ mph in a matter of seconds. (For context I live on Christchurch road and have windows facing the road) on Twitter Share Hello, are there any plans to install speed or noise cameras? One of our biggest concerns is the speed of cars/motorcycles travelling up the hill past probyn road. When some drivers see open road, particularly later at night, you'll often see vehicles accelerating to 60+ mph in a matter of seconds. (For context I live on Christchurch road and have windows facing the road) on Linkedin Email Hello, are there any plans to install speed or noise cameras? One of our biggest concerns is the speed of cars/motorcycles travelling up the hill past probyn road. When some drivers see open road, particularly later at night, you'll often see vehicles accelerating to 60+ mph in a matter of seconds. (For context I live on Christchurch road and have windows facing the road) link

    Hello, are there any plans to install speed or noise cameras? One of our biggest concerns is the speed of cars/motorcycles travelling up the hill past probyn road. When some drivers see open road, particularly later at night, you'll often see vehicles accelerating to 60+ mph in a matter of seconds. (For context I live on Christchurch road and have windows facing the road)

    JonathanSkelley asked 2 months ago

    The purpose of this improvement scheme is improve pedestrian safety and to reduce the speed of vehicles travelling around the gyratory.  The narrowing of the lanes will help to reduce traffic speeds at the junctions and improve pedestrian safety.  At this present time, we do not have plans to install road cameras as part of this scheme.

  • Share Will this gyratory get physically separated cycle lanes to keep cyclists safe? on Facebook Share Will this gyratory get physically separated cycle lanes to keep cyclists safe? on Twitter Share Will this gyratory get physically separated cycle lanes to keep cyclists safe? on Linkedin Email Will this gyratory get physically separated cycle lanes to keep cyclists safe? link

    Will this gyratory get physically separated cycle lanes to keep cyclists safe?

    Mato89 asked 2 months ago

    As part of this scheme, we are not putting in any segregated cycling lanes.  This is outside of the scope of the scheme.

  • Share I am a resident living near Tulse Hill station and would like to know if there are any plans to improve the safety of pedestrians at the zebra crossing on Thurlow Park Road (immediately after the junctions with Avenue Park Road and Birkbeck Hill)? Vehicles approaching this zebra crossing are frequently driving very fast as they leave the Tulse Hill Gyratory and continue along the South Circular. Cars will often not stop, even when they see pedestrians waiting to cross at the Zebra crossing or starting to walk across. I have seen many narrowly avoided accidents on this zebra crossing where cars have simply ignored pedestrians attempting to cross. The zebra crossing is heavily relied upon as the only safe place to cross this road and access Avenue Park Road, where there is an entrance to Tulse Hill Station. Improvements to the safety of this crossing are therefore urgently needed. on Facebook Share I am a resident living near Tulse Hill station and would like to know if there are any plans to improve the safety of pedestrians at the zebra crossing on Thurlow Park Road (immediately after the junctions with Avenue Park Road and Birkbeck Hill)? Vehicles approaching this zebra crossing are frequently driving very fast as they leave the Tulse Hill Gyratory and continue along the South Circular. Cars will often not stop, even when they see pedestrians waiting to cross at the Zebra crossing or starting to walk across. I have seen many narrowly avoided accidents on this zebra crossing where cars have simply ignored pedestrians attempting to cross. The zebra crossing is heavily relied upon as the only safe place to cross this road and access Avenue Park Road, where there is an entrance to Tulse Hill Station. Improvements to the safety of this crossing are therefore urgently needed. on Twitter Share I am a resident living near Tulse Hill station and would like to know if there are any plans to improve the safety of pedestrians at the zebra crossing on Thurlow Park Road (immediately after the junctions with Avenue Park Road and Birkbeck Hill)? Vehicles approaching this zebra crossing are frequently driving very fast as they leave the Tulse Hill Gyratory and continue along the South Circular. Cars will often not stop, even when they see pedestrians waiting to cross at the Zebra crossing or starting to walk across. I have seen many narrowly avoided accidents on this zebra crossing where cars have simply ignored pedestrians attempting to cross. The zebra crossing is heavily relied upon as the only safe place to cross this road and access Avenue Park Road, where there is an entrance to Tulse Hill Station. Improvements to the safety of this crossing are therefore urgently needed. on Linkedin Email I am a resident living near Tulse Hill station and would like to know if there are any plans to improve the safety of pedestrians at the zebra crossing on Thurlow Park Road (immediately after the junctions with Avenue Park Road and Birkbeck Hill)? Vehicles approaching this zebra crossing are frequently driving very fast as they leave the Tulse Hill Gyratory and continue along the South Circular. Cars will often not stop, even when they see pedestrians waiting to cross at the Zebra crossing or starting to walk across. I have seen many narrowly avoided accidents on this zebra crossing where cars have simply ignored pedestrians attempting to cross. The zebra crossing is heavily relied upon as the only safe place to cross this road and access Avenue Park Road, where there is an entrance to Tulse Hill Station. Improvements to the safety of this crossing are therefore urgently needed. link

    I am a resident living near Tulse Hill station and would like to know if there are any plans to improve the safety of pedestrians at the zebra crossing on Thurlow Park Road (immediately after the junctions with Avenue Park Road and Birkbeck Hill)? Vehicles approaching this zebra crossing are frequently driving very fast as they leave the Tulse Hill Gyratory and continue along the South Circular. Cars will often not stop, even when they see pedestrians waiting to cross at the Zebra crossing or starting to walk across. I have seen many narrowly avoided accidents on this zebra crossing where cars have simply ignored pedestrians attempting to cross. The zebra crossing is heavily relied upon as the only safe place to cross this road and access Avenue Park Road, where there is an entrance to Tulse Hill Station. Improvements to the safety of this crossing are therefore urgently needed.

    TulseHillResident10 asked 2 months ago

    This scheme solely looks to address safety on the Tulse Hill Gyratory and we are not considering areas outside of this as part of this scheme.  

  • Share Why are temporary footways included, rather than permanent pavement widening, and how long would they be expected to be in place? on Facebook Share Why are temporary footways included, rather than permanent pavement widening, and how long would they be expected to be in place? on Twitter Share Why are temporary footways included, rather than permanent pavement widening, and how long would they be expected to be in place? on Linkedin Email Why are temporary footways included, rather than permanent pavement widening, and how long would they be expected to be in place? link

    Why are temporary footways included, rather than permanent pavement widening, and how long would they be expected to be in place?

    AndrewT asked 2 months ago

    The new footways proposed as part of this scheme are temporary as well will be looking to install a permanent solution as part of the longer term work for Tulse Hill.  The new buildouts will constructed from asphalt, but the existing footway will be various different types of paving which will match the existing paving. We are looking at a longer term project for the Tulse Hill Gyratory and these pavement arrangements might change in the future.

  • Share Hello. I'm confused why this is at the inform stage when as a local resident we have just received a letter stating that there is a consultation. I would like to ask why TfL is making these minor improvements when there is a larger plan to remove the gyratory system and make the whole area safer for pedestrians and drivers. In addition to problems at the zebra crossings, there are also issues at the traffic lights (two sets) where the South Circular and Norwood Road meet and there have been several accidents in the past few years. It seems a waste of money to implement small changes now that don't address the fundamental issues if the wider scheme is going ahead. on Facebook Share Hello. I'm confused why this is at the inform stage when as a local resident we have just received a letter stating that there is a consultation. I would like to ask why TfL is making these minor improvements when there is a larger plan to remove the gyratory system and make the whole area safer for pedestrians and drivers. In addition to problems at the zebra crossings, there are also issues at the traffic lights (two sets) where the South Circular and Norwood Road meet and there have been several accidents in the past few years. It seems a waste of money to implement small changes now that don't address the fundamental issues if the wider scheme is going ahead. on Twitter Share Hello. I'm confused why this is at the inform stage when as a local resident we have just received a letter stating that there is a consultation. I would like to ask why TfL is making these minor improvements when there is a larger plan to remove the gyratory system and make the whole area safer for pedestrians and drivers. In addition to problems at the zebra crossings, there are also issues at the traffic lights (two sets) where the South Circular and Norwood Road meet and there have been several accidents in the past few years. It seems a waste of money to implement small changes now that don't address the fundamental issues if the wider scheme is going ahead. on Linkedin Email Hello. I'm confused why this is at the inform stage when as a local resident we have just received a letter stating that there is a consultation. I would like to ask why TfL is making these minor improvements when there is a larger plan to remove the gyratory system and make the whole area safer for pedestrians and drivers. In addition to problems at the zebra crossings, there are also issues at the traffic lights (two sets) where the South Circular and Norwood Road meet and there have been several accidents in the past few years. It seems a waste of money to implement small changes now that don't address the fundamental issues if the wider scheme is going ahead. link

    Hello. I'm confused why this is at the inform stage when as a local resident we have just received a letter stating that there is a consultation. I would like to ask why TfL is making these minor improvements when there is a larger plan to remove the gyratory system and make the whole area safer for pedestrians and drivers. In addition to problems at the zebra crossings, there are also issues at the traffic lights (two sets) where the South Circular and Norwood Road meet and there have been several accidents in the past few years. It seems a waste of money to implement small changes now that don't address the fundamental issues if the wider scheme is going ahead.

    Chris0 asked 2 months ago

    We contacted residents and businesses as part of an engagement exercise rather than a consultation.  Beyond these road safety changes to Tulse Hill Gyratory, we are also exploring further opportunities to enhance Tulse Hill’s local road system. This exploratory work must consider the needs of local residents, businesses and all road users, especially people walking, cycling and using public transport. As an exploratory project we will investigate the full range of opportunities available and understand how much further enhancements might cost.

  • Share Will you be adding any greening elements? on Facebook Share Will you be adding any greening elements? on Twitter Share Will you be adding any greening elements? on Linkedin Email Will you be adding any greening elements? link

    Will you be adding any greening elements?

    Nature78 asked 2 months ago

    We won't be delivering wider greening elements as part of this scheme.  This scheme aims to address safety concerns.

  • Share As a local resident I am supportive of this, however the junction should be looked at as a whole for all users, including cyclist which this scheme does not specifically mention. A Cycle path and markings should be added. It can very dangerous trying to cycling from Christchurch road Westbound passing over to Tulse hill competing with cars and busses. A cycle link should be created from Norwood to Brixton. This would be an important link passing by the schools and Brockwell park along Tulse Hill. There are wide sections of road which would make this easily achievable. Kerb side 'rain gardens' should also be included in this scheme. on Facebook Share As a local resident I am supportive of this, however the junction should be looked at as a whole for all users, including cyclist which this scheme does not specifically mention. A Cycle path and markings should be added. It can very dangerous trying to cycling from Christchurch road Westbound passing over to Tulse hill competing with cars and busses. A cycle link should be created from Norwood to Brixton. This would be an important link passing by the schools and Brockwell park along Tulse Hill. There are wide sections of road which would make this easily achievable. Kerb side 'rain gardens' should also be included in this scheme. on Twitter Share As a local resident I am supportive of this, however the junction should be looked at as a whole for all users, including cyclist which this scheme does not specifically mention. A Cycle path and markings should be added. It can very dangerous trying to cycling from Christchurch road Westbound passing over to Tulse hill competing with cars and busses. A cycle link should be created from Norwood to Brixton. This would be an important link passing by the schools and Brockwell park along Tulse Hill. There are wide sections of road which would make this easily achievable. Kerb side 'rain gardens' should also be included in this scheme. on Linkedin Email As a local resident I am supportive of this, however the junction should be looked at as a whole for all users, including cyclist which this scheme does not specifically mention. A Cycle path and markings should be added. It can very dangerous trying to cycling from Christchurch road Westbound passing over to Tulse hill competing with cars and busses. A cycle link should be created from Norwood to Brixton. This would be an important link passing by the schools and Brockwell park along Tulse Hill. There are wide sections of road which would make this easily achievable. Kerb side 'rain gardens' should also be included in this scheme. link

    As a local resident I am supportive of this, however the junction should be looked at as a whole for all users, including cyclist which this scheme does not specifically mention. A Cycle path and markings should be added. It can very dangerous trying to cycling from Christchurch road Westbound passing over to Tulse hill competing with cars and busses. A cycle link should be created from Norwood to Brixton. This would be an important link passing by the schools and Brockwell park along Tulse Hill. There are wide sections of road which would make this easily achievable. Kerb side 'rain gardens' should also be included in this scheme.

    Dean-London asked 2 months ago

    s part of this scheme, we are not putting in any segreated cycling lanes or other cycling facilities.  However, beyond these road safety changes to Tulse Hill Gyratory, we are also exploring further opportunities to enhance Tulse Hill’s local road system. This exploratory work must consider the needs of local residents, businesses and all road users, especially people walking, cycling and using public transport. As an exploratory project we will investigate the full range of opportunities available and understand how much further enhancements might cost.

  • Share Could late lane changes around (51.4404212, -0.1086120) be deterred by using different road markings, such as a solid line, or a hatched area with a solid border? on Facebook Share Could late lane changes around (51.4404212, -0.1086120) be deterred by using different road markings, such as a solid line, or a hatched area with a solid border? on Twitter Share Could late lane changes around (51.4404212, -0.1086120) be deterred by using different road markings, such as a solid line, or a hatched area with a solid border? on Linkedin Email Could late lane changes around (51.4404212, -0.1086120) be deterred by using different road markings, such as a solid line, or a hatched area with a solid border? link

    Could late lane changes around (51.4404212, -0.1086120) be deterred by using different road markings, such as a solid line, or a hatched area with a solid border?

    zackaolowitz asked 2 months ago

    Unfortunately, we are not sure what location is referred to in this question and therefore cannot respond accurately.  

  • Share Have you assessed the extent to which west-bound traffic will seek to use Probyn Road/Lanercost Road/Hillside Road to evade the proposed new crossing arrangements? on Facebook Share Have you assessed the extent to which west-bound traffic will seek to use Probyn Road/Lanercost Road/Hillside Road to evade the proposed new crossing arrangements? on Twitter Share Have you assessed the extent to which west-bound traffic will seek to use Probyn Road/Lanercost Road/Hillside Road to evade the proposed new crossing arrangements? on Linkedin Email Have you assessed the extent to which west-bound traffic will seek to use Probyn Road/Lanercost Road/Hillside Road to evade the proposed new crossing arrangements? link

    Have you assessed the extent to which west-bound traffic will seek to use Probyn Road/Lanercost Road/Hillside Road to evade the proposed new crossing arrangements?

    Chris H asked about 2 months ago

    We are not proposing any new crossing arrangements as part of this scheme.  We are are narrowing some of the carriageways on the Tulse Hill gyratory to encourage vehicles to slow down and address safety issues.  We do not anticipate that these changes will have an impact on traffic assignment in the area and expect that vehicles will still continue to use their normal routes through these junctions.  

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