Community discussion: A232 Sandilands to West Wickham Healthy Streets Scheme

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What we are doing

Why this matters

Get involved in our Community workshop

Other ways to get involved

Next steps

What we are doing

We’re exploring improvements along the A232 corridor between Sandilands and West Wickham to improve bus journey times and reduce road danger. We want to hear from local people to help shape our plans at an early stage.

Why this matters

Across London, we want to ensure that buses remain an attractive way for people to move around. We also want people walking, cycling and using public transport to be safe using our roads. In the 36 months up to 31 December 2024, there were 63 collisions along this stretch of road, including nine where people were seriously injured.

The A232 is a busy and important road in south London, connecting the important town centres of Bromley and Croydon. Eleven bus routes use this road, including Superloop 5.

We have a target for 80 per cent of journeys across London to be made by walking, cycling and public transport. Unfortunately we have seen bus speeds reduce in this area, which means people may be put off using them to get around. We also want to reduce the number of people killed and seriously injured on London’s roads to zero by 2041.

We are looking in this area to make changes to the road network that will help buses move more efficiently, encourage more people to use them, and make it safer to walk and cycle.

We are also keen to make the area greener, more welcoming and safer for everyone. That includes looking at making the transport network easier for older and disabled people to get around, and tackling violence against women and girls by addressing any street design issues.

Get involved in our community workshop

We’re looking for 24 local residents to take part in a 2-hour evening workshop focused on improving the A232 corridor in Croydon and Bromley. Your input will help shape future changes for walking, cycling, and public transport. The workshop will take place in January, and we will provide participants with a voucher worth £150.

We want to hear from a representative cross-section of the local community. We are keen to make sure women, young people, and people from ethnic minority communities are included. People from these groups are often underrepresented in engagement and consultation activity.

Participants will receive an info-pack ahead of the session with key information. We will ask you to make journeys in the local area ahead of the workshop.

Interested? Fill out the ‘Express interest’ form below to be considered.

Other ways to get involved

  • Community pinboard map tool: pin suggestions, feedback, and issues at specific locations along the corridor.
  • Questions: ask us anything about the scheme — we’ll respond during the engagement period.

Next steps

Following this engagement period we will consider the feedback received and this will help inform decisions we make.

We have yet to decide our next steps for consultation and engagement, as this will be partially informed by this engagement period.

What we are doing

Why this matters

Get involved in our Community workshop

Other ways to get involved

Next steps

What we are doing

We’re exploring improvements along the A232 corridor between Sandilands and West Wickham to improve bus journey times and reduce road danger. We want to hear from local people to help shape our plans at an early stage.

Why this matters

Across London, we want to ensure that buses remain an attractive way for people to move around. We also want people walking, cycling and using public transport to be safe using our roads. In the 36 months up to 31 December 2024, there were 63 collisions along this stretch of road, including nine where people were seriously injured.

The A232 is a busy and important road in south London, connecting the important town centres of Bromley and Croydon. Eleven bus routes use this road, including Superloop 5.

We have a target for 80 per cent of journeys across London to be made by walking, cycling and public transport. Unfortunately we have seen bus speeds reduce in this area, which means people may be put off using them to get around. We also want to reduce the number of people killed and seriously injured on London’s roads to zero by 2041.

We are looking in this area to make changes to the road network that will help buses move more efficiently, encourage more people to use them, and make it safer to walk and cycle.

We are also keen to make the area greener, more welcoming and safer for everyone. That includes looking at making the transport network easier for older and disabled people to get around, and tackling violence against women and girls by addressing any street design issues.

Get involved in our community workshop

We’re looking for 24 local residents to take part in a 2-hour evening workshop focused on improving the A232 corridor in Croydon and Bromley. Your input will help shape future changes for walking, cycling, and public transport. The workshop will take place in January, and we will provide participants with a voucher worth £150.

We want to hear from a representative cross-section of the local community. We are keen to make sure women, young people, and people from ethnic minority communities are included. People from these groups are often underrepresented in engagement and consultation activity.

Participants will receive an info-pack ahead of the session with key information. We will ask you to make journeys in the local area ahead of the workshop.

Interested? Fill out the ‘Express interest’ form below to be considered.

Other ways to get involved

  • Community pinboard map tool: pin suggestions, feedback, and issues at specific locations along the corridor.
  • Questions: ask us anything about the scheme — we’ll respond during the engagement period.

Next steps

Following this engagement period we will consider the feedback received and this will help inform decisions we make.

We have yet to decide our next steps for consultation and engagement, as this will be partially informed by this engagement period.

Ask us a question

Please let us know if you have any questions about the scheme. If you prefer, you can email your questions to localcommunitiesandpartnerships@tfl.gov.uk or write to us at FREEPOST TFL HAVE YOUR SAY- ‘A232 Healthy Streets scheme’ (no stamp needed).

Please note that any questions you ask may be visible to others and will be subject to moderation. Any personal information will be kept confidential, but your username will be displayed. Further details on moderation are available here. 

Questions may be publicly available after the engagement phase has closed but any personal information will be kept confidential. Your personal information will be properly safeguarded and processed in accordance with the requirements of privacy and data protection legislation. For further information, please visit our privacy policy. 

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  • Share Can you provide information as to the total cost of the project including planning, consultation and road works. on Facebook Share Can you provide information as to the total cost of the project including planning, consultation and road works. on Twitter Share Can you provide information as to the total cost of the project including planning, consultation and road works. on Linkedin Email Can you provide information as to the total cost of the project including planning, consultation and road works. link

    Can you provide information as to the total cost of the project including planning, consultation and road works.

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    The engagement phase has an estimated budget of £8,000 for activities such as venue hire, materials, and participant remuneration. Costs for design and construction will be determined once proposals are developed and approved.

  • Share Will the project look at economic impacts. If traffic is slowed, travel times will increase and this has a negative impact on businesses and the economy of the area. on Facebook Share Will the project look at economic impacts. If traffic is slowed, travel times will increase and this has a negative impact on businesses and the economy of the area. on Twitter Share Will the project look at economic impacts. If traffic is slowed, travel times will increase and this has a negative impact on businesses and the economy of the area. on Linkedin Email Will the project look at economic impacts. If traffic is slowed, travel times will increase and this has a negative impact on businesses and the economy of the area. link

    Will the project look at economic impacts. If traffic is slowed, travel times will increase and this has a negative impact on businesses and the economy of the area.

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    We recognise the importance of balancing transport improvements with economic activity. Our modelling will consider journey times for all modes and aim to minimise negative impacts while improving sustainable travel options.

    We know that 1.2 million shopping, leisure and personal business trips are made by bus every day in London. We also know that  in London’s town centres bus users spend more per head per month than rail users, car users and cyclists. You can read more here: The social, health and economic benefits of buses in London. 

  • Share Will the project consider environmental consideration like pollution; as driving slowly in a low gear can decrease efficiency and increase pollution. on Facebook Share Will the project consider environmental consideration like pollution; as driving slowly in a low gear can decrease efficiency and increase pollution. on Twitter Share Will the project consider environmental consideration like pollution; as driving slowly in a low gear can decrease efficiency and increase pollution. on Linkedin Email Will the project consider environmental consideration like pollution; as driving slowly in a low gear can decrease efficiency and increase pollution. link

    Will the project consider environmental consideration like pollution; as driving slowly in a low gear can decrease efficiency and increase pollution.

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    Yes, environmental impacts are part of our assessment. DfT research states that generally driving more slowly at a steady pace saves fuel and carbon dioxide emissions, unless an unnecessarily low gear is used.  

     Reducing stop-start traffic and improving bus flow can help lower emissions. We will also explore opportunities for green infrastructure improvements along the corridor. 

  • Share You mentioned a number of things regarding the rational and objectives of the project. One is the reduction of bus travel times. Can you elaborate in this area. For instance, what is the current averaged bus travel time and what is the considered improvement expected. on Facebook Share You mentioned a number of things regarding the rational and objectives of the project. One is the reduction of bus travel times. Can you elaborate in this area. For instance, what is the current averaged bus travel time and what is the considered improvement expected. on Twitter Share You mentioned a number of things regarding the rational and objectives of the project. One is the reduction of bus travel times. Can you elaborate in this area. For instance, what is the current averaged bus travel time and what is the considered improvement expected. on Linkedin Email You mentioned a number of things regarding the rational and objectives of the project. One is the reduction of bus travel times. Can you elaborate in this area. For instance, what is the current averaged bus travel time and what is the considered improvement expected. link

    You mentioned a number of things regarding the rational and objectives of the project. One is the reduction of bus travel times. Can you elaborate in this area. For instance, what is the current averaged bus travel time and what is the considered improvement expected.

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    Current bus speeds are 9–11 mph. While exact targets will depend on modelling, we aim to achieve meaningful improvements through measures such as extended bus lanes, signal priority, and junction redesigns. These changes should make buses more reliable and attractive for local journeys. 

  • Share Is 20 miles an hour speed limit being considered and if so, how will this improve the bus travel times? on Facebook Share Is 20 miles an hour speed limit being considered and if so, how will this improve the bus travel times? on Twitter Share Is 20 miles an hour speed limit being considered and if so, how will this improve the bus travel times? on Linkedin Email Is 20 miles an hour speed limit being considered and if so, how will this improve the bus travel times? link

    Is 20 miles an hour speed limit being considered and if so, how will this improve the bus travel times?

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    A 20 mph limit is not currently proposed as part of this scheme.  

  • Share Base on the picture provided on the site related to the project. Is this a fair representation of what is being proposed? If so, it looks like the traffic speed will be determined by the slowest vehicle or bike. Then I question how this will improve bus travel times. on Facebook Share Base on the picture provided on the site related to the project. Is this a fair representation of what is being proposed? If so, it looks like the traffic speed will be determined by the slowest vehicle or bike. Then I question how this will improve bus travel times. on Twitter Share Base on the picture provided on the site related to the project. Is this a fair representation of what is being proposed? If so, it looks like the traffic speed will be determined by the slowest vehicle or bike. Then I question how this will improve bus travel times. on Linkedin Email Base on the picture provided on the site related to the project. Is this a fair representation of what is being proposed? If so, it looks like the traffic speed will be determined by the slowest vehicle or bike. Then I question how this will improve bus travel times. link

    Base on the picture provided on the site related to the project. Is this a fair representation of what is being proposed? If so, it looks like the traffic speed will be determined by the slowest vehicle or bike. Then I question how this will improve bus travel times.

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    The image on the site is illustrative only and does not represent final designs. We are at an early engagement stage and have not yet developed detailed proposals. Bus priority measures will be designed to improve bus speeds without compromising safety or creating unnecessary delays for other road users. 

  • Share In the detail provided it states there were 63 collisions over a 36-month period. Can you provide a breakdown on the collisions per type of transport involved. i.e. number per bike bus, car, lorry, other Etc? Also, a breakdown of the time of day the collisions occur would also be useful. i.e. do most of them occur during rush hours? on Facebook Share In the detail provided it states there were 63 collisions over a 36-month period. Can you provide a breakdown on the collisions per type of transport involved. i.e. number per bike bus, car, lorry, other Etc? Also, a breakdown of the time of day the collisions occur would also be useful. i.e. do most of them occur during rush hours? on Twitter Share In the detail provided it states there were 63 collisions over a 36-month period. Can you provide a breakdown on the collisions per type of transport involved. i.e. number per bike bus, car, lorry, other Etc? Also, a breakdown of the time of day the collisions occur would also be useful. i.e. do most of them occur during rush hours? on Linkedin Email In the detail provided it states there were 63 collisions over a 36-month period. Can you provide a breakdown on the collisions per type of transport involved. i.e. number per bike bus, car, lorry, other Etc? Also, a breakdown of the time of day the collisions occur would also be useful. i.e. do most of them occur during rush hours? link

    In the detail provided it states there were 63 collisions over a 36-month period. Can you provide a breakdown on the collisions per type of transport involved. i.e. number per bike bus, car, lorry, other Etc? Also, a breakdown of the time of day the collisions occur would also be useful. i.e. do most of them occur during rush hours?

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    Over a 36-month period, there were 63 collisions along the corridor, 9 of which resulted in serious injury. We are compiling detailed data for the info pack, including breakdowns by mode (car, bus, cycle, pedestrian) and time of day. This will be shared with workshop participants and published in the engagement report. 

  • Share It is stated bus journey time have slowed in the area. Do we have any data on why the is? Is it due to volume of traffic or changes to road network like additional traffic lights, establishment of 20MPH limits or increase in road works? on Facebook Share It is stated bus journey time have slowed in the area. Do we have any data on why the is? Is it due to volume of traffic or changes to road network like additional traffic lights, establishment of 20MPH limits or increase in road works? on Twitter Share It is stated bus journey time have slowed in the area. Do we have any data on why the is? Is it due to volume of traffic or changes to road network like additional traffic lights, establishment of 20MPH limits or increase in road works? on Linkedin Email It is stated bus journey time have slowed in the area. Do we have any data on why the is? Is it due to volume of traffic or changes to road network like additional traffic lights, establishment of 20MPH limits or increase in road works? link

    It is stated bus journey time have slowed in the area. Do we have any data on why the is? Is it due to volume of traffic or changes to road network like additional traffic lights, establishment of 20MPH limits or increase in road works?

    Chris Glover asked 2 months ago

    Bus speeds along the A232 corridor currently range between 9–11 mph. This reduction is largely due to high traffic volumes and congestion, particularly during peak periods. While factors such as signal timings and road works can contribute, the primary issue is the overall traffic mix and delays at junctions. Our aim is to introduce bus priority measures to improve reliability and journey times. Good journey times to get from A to B are key to making public transport attractive and a viable alternative to car trips.  Using the bus network and sustainable modes instead of private car contributes to less road congestion and less air pollution helping all Londoners.  

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