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Update 17 May 2024

Between 16 October and 26 November 2023, we held a public consultation proposing changes to the way bus routes 178, 335 and B16 serve Kidbrooke Village, in the Royal Borough of Greenwich.

We have now published our report on the outcomes of the consultation, which you can view in the Documents section of this webpage.

We received 244 responses to the consultation. Our responses to the main issues raised during the consultation is included in Appendix A of the report.

After fully considering the consultation responses, we have decided to proceed with the scheme as consulted upon.



We would like to hear your views about a proposal to change parts of bus routes 178, 335 and B16 in Kidbrooke Village, Royal Borough of Greenwich.

On this page you can read more about what is proposed and how this may impact you. You can also view maps, ask questions, give feedback, and find out about other ways to get in touch and take part.


Background

What is proposed our route by route guide

Planning for the future

Equalities Impact Assessment

How you can find out more

Tell us your views

What happens next






Background

Photograph of Pegler Square street sign.

London’s bus network is our most affordable, accessible, and available form of public transport and offers the main sustainable alternative to cars for those journeys that cannot easily be walked or cycled. It is also London’s most flexible mode of public transport.

We continuously review and adapt the bus network to reflect changing customer needs. This includes responding to serving new homes and emerging new communities such as those in Kidbrooke Village.

Read more about how we are increasing the number of bus journeys by making bus travel better, faster and greener in our Bus action plan.





What is proposed our route by route guide


Click here to view a larger image

Our proposals are designed to support the ongoing regeneration of Kidbrooke Village which has seen changes to the local road network and in time will see the closure of Cambert Way to enable the delivery of new housing.

The proposals seek to simplify bus routeings and better serve the station and local amenities on Pegler Square.

The scheme means the bus stops and stand on Ryan Close would no longer be served by buses. This would happen anyway, because a future phase of development will close Cambert Way leading to Ryan Close.

Passengers wishing to access Ryan Close would be provided for at alternative bus stops along the proposed new bus route, with stops on Tudway Road being the closest and within 400 metre walk. Proposed bus stop names are indicative for consultation purposes.






Further information on proposals for routes 178, 335, B16 and impacts on bus stops can be found below.


Equalities Impact Assessment

We have undertaken an initial Equality Impact Assessment (EqIA) for these proposals. The EqIA identifies and examines in more detail what positive and negative impacts these proposals may have on individuals with protected characteristics together with our equality objectives and how we propose to mitigate any negative impacts.

The EqIA will be kept under review and updated to reflect any relevant new information, including information which comes in as part of the consultation process.


How you can find out more

We have provided more information to help you respond, and we want this consultation to be accessible to everyone.

You can use the question tool on this page during the consultation period. We will respond your questions as soon as we can.

If you need to translate this page into another language, please use the ‘Select language’ button at the bottom of this page.

Connecting with London's deaf community on our consultations

British Sign Language video and audio versions of the proposals and survey are available.

To further enhance how we engage and consult with London's deaf community we are trialling a British Sign Language (BSL) consultation conversation service for this consultation. This service will allow the TfL consultation lead to have a two-way BSL translated discussion on any aspect of this consultation with a BSL speaker.

To request a BSL consultation conversation please contact us at haveyoursay@tfl.gov.uk and we will be in contact to arrange this at a convenient time. Following this trial, we will evaluate the service to determine if this is something we are able to offer on other consultations in the future.

Drop-in events

We are holding in-person events where you can hear more about our proposals at Kidbrooke Village Community Hub, 8 Pegler Square, London SE3 9JT on:

  • Tuesday 7 November 2023 (14:00 - 20:00)
  • Saturday 11 November 2023 (09:00 - 13:00)

Please come along and let us know your views. If you are unable to attend and would like to discuss the proposals further with us, please get in touch and we can respond to your queries directly.


What happens next

These proposals are subject to the outcome of our consultation. Once the consultation ends on 26 November 2023, we will spend time considering all the responses we receive and will prepare a consultation report.

The consultation report will help us reach a decision about how bus routes 178, 335 and B16 may change.

A copy of the report will be available to everyone that takes part in the consultation and a copy will be published on our website.




Update 17 May 2024

Between 16 October and 26 November 2023, we held a public consultation proposing changes to the way bus routes 178, 335 and B16 serve Kidbrooke Village, in the Royal Borough of Greenwich.

We have now published our report on the outcomes of the consultation, which you can view in the Documents section of this webpage.

We received 244 responses to the consultation. Our responses to the main issues raised during the consultation is included in Appendix A of the report.

After fully considering the consultation responses, we have decided to proceed with the scheme as consulted upon.



We would like to hear your views about a proposal to change parts of bus routes 178, 335 and B16 in Kidbrooke Village, Royal Borough of Greenwich.

On this page you can read more about what is proposed and how this may impact you. You can also view maps, ask questions, give feedback, and find out about other ways to get in touch and take part.


Background

What is proposed our route by route guide

Planning for the future

Equalities Impact Assessment

How you can find out more

Tell us your views

What happens next






Background

Photograph of Pegler Square street sign.

London’s bus network is our most affordable, accessible, and available form of public transport and offers the main sustainable alternative to cars for those journeys that cannot easily be walked or cycled. It is also London’s most flexible mode of public transport.

We continuously review and adapt the bus network to reflect changing customer needs. This includes responding to serving new homes and emerging new communities such as those in Kidbrooke Village.

Read more about how we are increasing the number of bus journeys by making bus travel better, faster and greener in our Bus action plan.





What is proposed our route by route guide


Click here to view a larger image

Our proposals are designed to support the ongoing regeneration of Kidbrooke Village which has seen changes to the local road network and in time will see the closure of Cambert Way to enable the delivery of new housing.

The proposals seek to simplify bus routeings and better serve the station and local amenities on Pegler Square.

The scheme means the bus stops and stand on Ryan Close would no longer be served by buses. This would happen anyway, because a future phase of development will close Cambert Way leading to Ryan Close.

Passengers wishing to access Ryan Close would be provided for at alternative bus stops along the proposed new bus route, with stops on Tudway Road being the closest and within 400 metre walk. Proposed bus stop names are indicative for consultation purposes.






Further information on proposals for routes 178, 335, B16 and impacts on bus stops can be found below.


Equalities Impact Assessment

We have undertaken an initial Equality Impact Assessment (EqIA) for these proposals. The EqIA identifies and examines in more detail what positive and negative impacts these proposals may have on individuals with protected characteristics together with our equality objectives and how we propose to mitigate any negative impacts.

The EqIA will be kept under review and updated to reflect any relevant new information, including information which comes in as part of the consultation process.


How you can find out more

We have provided more information to help you respond, and we want this consultation to be accessible to everyone.

You can use the question tool on this page during the consultation period. We will respond your questions as soon as we can.

If you need to translate this page into another language, please use the ‘Select language’ button at the bottom of this page.

Connecting with London's deaf community on our consultations

British Sign Language video and audio versions of the proposals and survey are available.

To further enhance how we engage and consult with London's deaf community we are trialling a British Sign Language (BSL) consultation conversation service for this consultation. This service will allow the TfL consultation lead to have a two-way BSL translated discussion on any aspect of this consultation with a BSL speaker.

To request a BSL consultation conversation please contact us at haveyoursay@tfl.gov.uk and we will be in contact to arrange this at a convenient time. Following this trial, we will evaluate the service to determine if this is something we are able to offer on other consultations in the future.

Drop-in events

We are holding in-person events where you can hear more about our proposals at Kidbrooke Village Community Hub, 8 Pegler Square, London SE3 9JT on:

  • Tuesday 7 November 2023 (14:00 - 20:00)
  • Saturday 11 November 2023 (09:00 - 13:00)

Please come along and let us know your views. If you are unable to attend and would like to discuss the proposals further with us, please get in touch and we can respond to your queries directly.


What happens next

These proposals are subject to the outcome of our consultation. Once the consultation ends on 26 November 2023, we will spend time considering all the responses we receive and will prepare a consultation report.

The consultation report will help us reach a decision about how bus routes 178, 335 and B16 may change.

A copy of the report will be available to everyone that takes part in the consultation and a copy will be published on our website.




  • CLOSED: This survey has concluded.

    We are holding a six-week public consultation to hear what you think about these proposals. We want to know if you agree with them, if there is anything you do not agree with, and to understand the reasons why you feel this way.

    You can reply by completing our survey, which should take no more than 10 minutes to complete. The closing date for comments is Sunday 26 November 2023.

    To take part in our online survey you will need to register with your email address. Your details will be kept secure.

    If you prefer, you can also let us have your comments by:

    • Email: haveyoursay@tfl.gov.uk
    • Telephone: 020 3054 6037 to leave your name and contact number and we will call you back. Please quote Kidbrooke Village buses when leaving your message
    • Write to: FREEPOST TFL HAVE YOUR SAY (Kidbrooke Village buses) no postage stamp required
    Please note responses to the survey may be made publicly available after the consultation has closed, this would typically be in the form of a report on the results of the consultation exercise, but any personal information will be kept confidential. Your personal information will be properly safeguarded and processed in accordance with the requirements of privacy and data protection legislation. For further information, please visit our privacy policy
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